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		<title>Bing: Do Something Amazing!</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2009/09/01/bing-do-something-amazing/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that all of the excitement has died down from the launch of Bing and the announcement of the Yahoo-Bing partnership, I would like to reiterate the words spoken by Gord Hotchkiss to all of Google&#8217;s competitors before all of this took place. Last December at the Search Insider Summit in Park City, Utah, he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that all of the excitement has died down from the launch of Bing and the announcement of the Yahoo-Bing partnership, I would like to reiterate the words spoken by <a href="http://ask.enquiro.com/2009/248/">Gord Hotchkiss</a> to all of Google&#8217;s competitors before all of this took place. Last December at the Search Insider Summit in Park City, Utah, he took Yahoo and Microsoft to task for not mounting a more significant challenge to Google&#8217;s dominance. In short, he said, &#8220;Do something amazing!&#8221;</p>
<p>We now know that Microsoft is spending $80 to $100 million on a branding and marketing campaign to promote Bing. This is great news as it seems that Microsoft has finally put some financial muscle behind their intention to be a major player for search. Bing should also be taken seriously because Microsoft has even deeper pockets to invest more money as part of their overall online strategy. Sorry Yahoo, but now that Microsoft seems to have the financial and strategic will to mount an attack against Google, this message is specifically for Bing: do something amazing!</p>
<p>Bing needs to do the small stuff well and create an excellent user experience, but it also needs to make some high profile investments like Google Earth, Google Street View and the Google Books Library Project to show that it means business. This means that Bing should invest early and invest a lot now that the sound of the buzz of Bing is still ringing in our ears. There was MSN, then there was Live, and if Microsoft cannot succeed with Bing, then this is strike three and you&#8217;re out.</p>
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		<title>Google-Yahoo Paid Search Deal</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2008/06/17/google-yahoo-paid-search-deal/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara Rasco</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yahoo and Google have worked out some paid search advertising deal, announced yesterday. They assure us that it&#8217;s not a monopoly or merger. I don&#8217;t know what it is, though. From the linked Search Engine Land post, it sounds an awful lot like everything will be run through AdWords, with Yahoo getting to keep a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo and Google have worked out some paid search advertising deal, announced <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080612-193724.php" target="_blank">yesterday</a>. They assure us that it&#8217;s not a monopoly or merger. I don&#8217;t know what it is, though. From the linked Search Engine Land post, it sounds an awful lot like everything will be run through AdWords, with Yahoo getting to keep a share of the profits. What I want to know about is what this will do as far as the Yahoo Search Submit services go. Are all of the Yahoo paid search services coming over to the Google side or just pay-per-click and contextual advertising?</p>
<p>Guess I shouldn&#8217;t get too far ahead of myself in what is sure to be a very gradual roll out that already has the anti-trust people in the Senate very, very interested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Google Gains Again</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2008/04/16/google-gains-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara Rasco</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you seen this yet? Interestingly enough, the number of raw searches was up on Yahoo! and Microsoft even though their percentage of the market fell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080415-184858.php" target="_blank">this</a> yet? Interestingly enough, the number of raw searches was up on Yahoo! and Microsoft even though their percentage of the market fell.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/april_mktshare.jpg" alt="googlemktshare_0408" /></p>
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		<title>Susan the Meticulous, Clothespin Clipped to Her Nose, Presents Nomination for &#8220;Worst Practices&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2008/02/27/susan-the-meticulous-clothespin-clipped-to-her-nose-presents-nomination-for-worst-practices/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A media consultant friend used to have this sign taped to his office wall: &#8220;Never Do This.&#8221; Below it were newspaper clippings of unfortunate things public people had said. An oil company PR person saying: &#8220;Only four hundred thousand gallons of oil was spilled and it wasnâ€™t all ours.&#8221; An elected official defending allegations of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A media consultant friend used to have this sign taped to his office wall: &#8220;Never Do This.&#8221;</p>
<p>Below it were newspaper clippings of unfortunate things public people had said. An oil company PR person saying: &#8220;Only four hundred thousand gallons of oil was spilled and it wasnâ€™t all ours.&#8221; An elected official defending allegations of violating a particular law, saying: &#8220;Uh, that&#8217;s not a LAW.  It&#8217;s just a STATUTE.&#8221; At our SEO agency, we call it &#8220;Worst Practices.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last week, doing some competitive snooping for a client, I was at cache:www.competitorwebsite.com for the search engine view. It was the same as the competitor&#8217;s homepage &#8211; as it should be &#8211; with the Google cache box across the top. I scrolled all the way to the bottom, in my meticulous way, no surprises.</p>
<p>Then I clicked for the text-only version.  Just what you&#8217;d expect &#8211; no images, same words.  I scrolled to the bottom &#8211; oh my.</p>
<p>There, below the footer text, were several hundred words of hidden copy.  About eight more seconds of detective work revealed the copyâ€™s formatting code, the css class â€œse,â€ designated the right size, color, and presentation to be invisible to a human yet still be indexed by the search engines.</p>
<p>This is bad.  If this were ok, web searching would be like ordering the fish at a restaurant that says you can order anything, but really everyone in the kitchen is having a fist fight to see who gets to come out to your table to take your order.  The strongest and possibly meanest â€“ or most desperate or corrupt &#8211; wins the fight and comes to your table.  You&#8217;d say:  &#8220;Could I have the daily fish special?&#8221; And sheâ€™d say sure, which one do you want:  we have fish Brittany Spears, fish steroids, fish nudity, and low cost prescription medications with fish.</p>
<p>If you were patient, or terribly hungry, rather than running out the front door you might say &#8220;I asked for the fish special: Iâ€™ll have the salmon.&#8221;  And sheâ€™d nod, and say sure, which one do you want: we have salmon low interest credit cards, salmon diet cure, salmon vitamins, salmon product coupons, and online matchmaking with salmon.</p>
<p>Vitriol aside, I was having a great time doing the email equivalent of popping in to everyone&#8217;s office and saying &#8220;Look <strike>at me </strike> at this, isn&#8217;t it amazing?&#8221; Our CEO then asks if that hidden text is on any of the other pages.  I rush to view: source.  Yes, it is.  There is duplicate hidden duplicate copy on multiple pages.</p>
<p>Some of you already are sharing the satisfied elegance of justice, and for those not there yet, the punch line is: search engines despise duplicate text.  When itâ€™s found â€“ and itâ€™s easy for an automated process to find â€“ your website gets penalized â€“ those pages aren&#8217;t shown. SEO cheaters can be removed from the ranking results, aka de-listed.</p>
<p>So this website, while decently sized and showing signs of some ethical optimization, is nearly invisible to people searching. Whether a Google or Yahoo human picked up on the hidden text, or the automated process detected the collateral damage of the duplicate text, this site is suffering the consequences of its unethical SEO. We regrettably, and with a grimace of disgust, award this site top tier recognition in our gallery of Worst Practices.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo! rejects Microsoft</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2008/02/11/yahoo-rejects-microsoft/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara Rasco</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Search Engine Land&#8217;s post on the proposed Yahoo! buyout has email from Y! CEO Jerry Yang to the employees. From the way it sounds, one thing that won&#8217;t be going directly to Google is the search marketing portion of Yahoo! In the &#8220;actions that need to happen&#8221; section of the email, Yang writes: must buy: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://searchengineland.com/080211-092006.php" target="_blank">Search Engine Land&#8217;s post</a> on the proposed Yahoo! buyout has email from Y! CEO Jerry Yang to the employees. From the way it sounds, one thing that won&#8217;t be going directly to Google is the search marketing portion of Yahoo! In the &#8220;actions that need to happen&#8221; section of the email, Yang writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#333399"><strong>must buy: </strong>at the same time, we will increasingly make online      advertising easier and more effective for marketers, opening up new ways for      them to address consumers. our right media exchange, acquired last year, is      more open and easy to use, simplifying transactions for buyers and sellers      of online ad inventory. another 2007 acquisition, blue lithium, brings us      best in class performance marketing. while weâ€™ve historically tracked the      success of our ad business by focusing on metrics related to our owned and      operated sites, our goal is to increase the percentage of the total online      advertising demand we touchâ€”to 20% of our addressable market over the next      several years, from an estimated 15% in 2007. </font></p></blockquote>
<p>I had wondered about that, since Panama&#8217;s only been running for about a year. Even before they announced their rejection this morning, there have been <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/yahoo-said-to-be-restarting-talks-with-aol/?hp" target="_blank">rumors of Yahoo! renewing talks with AOL</a>. I haven&#8217;t a clue what that would gain Yahoo! in the long term since AOL is a slowly-failing dinosaur who uses Google&#8217;s search results. Who still uses AOL?</p>
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		<title>Yahoo: Google&#8217;s new buddy or Microsoft&#8217;s lunch?</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2008/02/05/yahoo-googles-new-buddy-or-microsofts-lunch/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara Rasco</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Driving to errands after work, a story came onto NPR&#8217;s Marketplace that was so riveting I sat in my parked car, little heart all aflutter with hope at what I was hearing. See, Microsoft is attempting a hostile takeover of Yahoo! That&#8217;s not the fun part, though. Yahoo! is trying to rally by paring down [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driving to errands after work, <a href="http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/02/04/microsoft_q/" target="_blank">a story came onto NPR&#8217;s Marketplace</a> that was so riveting I sat in my parked car, little heart all aflutter with hope at what I was hearing. See, <a href="http://searchengineland.com/080205-092816.php" target="_blank">Microsoft is attempting a hostile takeover of Yahoo!</a> That&#8217;s not the fun part, though. Yahoo! is trying to rally by paring down to doing what they do well and outsourcing what they don&#8217;t do so well. Namely, search.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right&#8211;the execs got together over the weekend to discuss Yahoo! outsourcing their search and paid search to Google. It&#8217;s like a Valentine&#8217;s Day gift from the universe to search marketers.</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s probably not nice of me, but I have a major problem with Yahoo! putting paid results in with the natural ones and not differentiating them. Not PPC ads, but an additional service called Yahoo! Search Submit. The clicks are cheap, but you don&#8217;t have a say in what search terms they use to display these listings you&#8217;re being charged for. We&#8217;ve found that our clients are usually paying for clicks on their own name&#8211;positioning that they should have for free. There&#8217;s an argument for it providing a lower-quality user experience as well, since the results aren&#8217;t going to be as truly relevant as Google&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Why pay at all if the practice is a little bit sketchy? Because otherwise, it&#8217;s crazy hard to get listed in Yahoo! at all. Since they index your site and drive traffic there by giving preferred positioning, it&#8217;s not such a bad deal, even if it is a bit devious. To just have the second-largest market share of search become one with the largest would have us SEO nerds blissed out like you wouldn&#8217;t believe. Fingers crossed!</p>
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		<title>Gestures of Appreciation</title>
		<link>http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/2008/01/21/gestures-of-appreciation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sara Rasco</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was recently The Holidays, which means business gifting along with the usual slate of presents for friends and family. When I was little, it was always an exciting time because dad would come home with gift baskets from vendors and clients. They contained strange and wondrous things, like cheese that didn&#8217;t seem to require [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was recently The Holidays, which means business gifting along with the usual slate of presents for friends and family. When I was little, it was always an exciting time because dad would come home with gift baskets from vendors and clients. They contained strange and wondrous things, like cheese that didn&#8217;t seem to require refrigeration! And candy!</p>
<p>As an intern, coming up with, purchasing, assembling, packaging, and mailing gifts for clients became my responsibility. The first year, we had a handful of clients and I was on a month-long break from college. Since I&#8217;m a bit of a rock star in the kitchen, we did tins of handmade gourmet cookies, fudge, and my great-grandmother&#8217;s pecans. Last year, we did hat boxes filled with local goodies from bakeries, candy makers, tea shops, coffee roasters, and the great spicy Nuts on a Hot Tin Roof from the Houston Junior League&#8217;s cookbook.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t really do that level of handiwork and personalization as your client base gets bigger and bigger. I understand ordering from one of the many corporate gift catalogs that start arriving mid-August. Over December, we had some things arrive in the mail to thank us for providing services, for using this service or that. Two stand out especially to me because they are gifts to us, their clients, from competing services&#8211;Google&#8217;s AdWords and Yahoo! Search Marketing.</p>
<p>One caveat: most of our clients are tech or b2b, whose demographics overwhelmingly prefer Google. This means we spend a lot less on pay per click advertising services with Y!SM than we would were we b2c-focused. What we spend isn&#8217;t insignificant, though. Which is why, when these arrived on the same day, one looked a lot better than the other.</p>
<p>From Yahoo!, we got a card that has seeds in the paper, so you can plant it and grow a mystery plant. It came mis-addressed&#8211;wrong first name, wrong business name, right address. Makes me wonder if Joe over at Rhino Engines and Transmissions has a fancy box of Yahoo! swag. A couple of weeks later, one of those roll-up USB keyboards arrived, in Yahoo! purple, natch. While it smells so strongly of chemicals you&#8217;d be afraid to touch it, you <em>can</em> use it in the bathtub or a sandstorm. This is a poor way to say thank you to a company who spends the cost of a house (albeit one in a marginal neighborhood) with you every year. Especially the messing up the address part.</p>
<p>The same week the seed card arrived, a precision-engineered box the size of a trade paperback arrived. Nestled inside the center hollow was this, with a nice little note and a gift card&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/2209110349_5c7b060ccf.jpg" title="googlexmas"><img src="http://www.refreshweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/2209110349_5c7b060ccf.jpg" alt="googlexmas" /></a></p>
<p>From Google, we have a very nifty 2GB flash drive that&#8217;s the size of a credit card with carrying case and a charitable donation gift card for $100 to DonorsChoose. <a href="http://www.donorschoose.org" target="_blank">DonorsChoose.org</a> is a great thing. Teachers from poor districts register for what they really need for their classrooms, and you can give toward it. We helped outfit a 1st grade class with magnetic marker boards in a school in Queens that has a 95% poverty rate. The last thing we need is more exotic mystery cheeses that don&#8217;t need refrigeration. This was a great idea, providing something fun and useful for me <em>and</em> for people who really need it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that only a corporate behemoth like the mighty Google could do something like this, and I&#8217;m not suggesting that this should be the norm for most companies. The important difference here isn&#8217;t how much one cost over the other. It&#8217;s about the thought that goes into it. Yahoo! would have been better off not sending anything than sending something that looks like it got bought from the picked-over shelves of the 24-hour CVS on Christmas Eve. It&#8217;s simple&#8211;you put your name on something and it becomes an emissary of your company. You know how in <em>Scrooged</em>, Bill Murray sends out towels embroidered with his network&#8217;s logo as Christmas gifts? Don&#8217;t be that guy.</p>
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